The Shifting Sands of a Shaky Foundation!

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In defending the Book of Mormon against the ravages of truth and science the Mormon Church has just shot itself in both feet and actually damaged any claim to rationality it tried to salvage from the wreckage of its frankly sick and failing 19th century fraudulent beginnings.

The Mormon Church has just  unintentionally admitted there was no Great Flood, or Tower of Babel. That people existed on the Earth many thousands of years before Adam and Eve, and that there was no Fall.

All in an effort to defend the Book of Mormon.

This leaves the Atonement of Christ on shaky ground too.

Whatever next….?

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Mormon Church essay:

The Book of Mormon & DNA Studies

This statement by the Mormon Church goes against everything we were taught about the Book Of Mormon people’s being the ancestors of the Indigenous Americans (indians).

It even disputes the (supposed) revelation from God himself from within the pages of the Book of Mormon itself:

2 Nephi 1:8-9 “And behold, it is wisdom that this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance. Wherefore, I, Lehi, have obtained a promise, that inasmuch as those whom the Lord God shall bring out of the land of Jerusalem shall keep his commandments, they shall prosper upon the face of this land; and they shall be kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves. And if it so be that they shall keep his commandments they shall be blessed upon the face of this land, and there shall be none to molest them, nor to take away the land of their inheritance; and they shall dwell safely forever.”

It further goes against God’s word itself given to Joseph Smith in a several ‘revelations’ including D&C 28:8

“And now, behold, I say unto you that you shall go unto the Lamanites and preach my gospel unto them; and inasmuch as they receive thy teachings thou shalt cause my church to be established among them; and thou shalt have revelations, but write them not by way of commandment.”

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The Church is also actually disavowing what the Book of Mormon itself says about the descendents of Lehi.

And obviously disavowing this all the General Authorities of the past who made statements about how the Indigenous Americans were descendents of the Lamanites.  Elder Gene R Cook being an example. Here are comments he made in 1980 before DNA proved the Indigenous Americans are not Lamanites:

“My family and I are presently living in South America among the Lamanites—the children of Lehi, the people of the Book of Mormon, a people of great promise. For a number of years we have been witnesses to spiritual miracles among that people:

1. We have seen thousands converted to the Lord who had his law put into their minds and written in their hearts (see Heb. 8:10).
2. We have seen them organized into numerous stakes of Zion.
3. We have truly seen them “blossom as the rose” as prophecy has been fulfilled through them (see D&C 49:24).
4. We have literally seen the Lord perform miracles among them by their faith.
Why should that be so? Why are changes in that people occurring so dramatically? The title page of the record their ancestors gave to the world, entitled the Book of Mormon, indicates that the book was “written to the Lamanites, who are a remnant of the house of Israel.” In the last chapter of the book, the prophet Moroni gives to the Lamanites farewell instructions, a portion of which contains the conditions on which individual testimonies of the truth may be obtained. The record is for all men, but from cover to cover the book is filled with prophecies concerning the Lamanites, indicating “that the promises of the Lord [would] be fulfilled, which he made to his people” (see D&C 3:18, 19).”

Miracles amongst the Lamanites of South America

By this new essay the Church has disavowed the past prophets of the Church who established the Lamanite Programmes to convert them to Mormonism, when they were promised to turn white skinned.

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At the October 1960 LDS Church Conference, Spencer Kimball utilized 2 Nephi 30:6 when he stated how the Indians “are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.” He said, “The [Indian] children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation” (Improvement Era, December 1960, pp. 922-3).

David Twede’s response:
DNA Part 1 Putting Jesus On Dis-Mantle

Simon Southerton’s response:
Response To President Newsroom

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See also my previous post on
Can Mormonism Honestly Hold Onto Both Faith & Science/

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17 Responses to The Shifting Sands of a Shaky Foundation!

  1. Good article Steve. Well written and accurate.

  2. Luis H. Romero says:

    Thanks, Steve
    OMG this is like the “October Surprise”!

  3. Kemari says:

    This is great Steve! It’s funny to me that the church/god isn’t using their prophet to answer any of these serious questions. Specialists and “the newsroom” are left to come up with horrible apologetics. The prophet was right on his mark however during the ribbon cutting for the billion dollar city creek mall opening commanding us to “1, 2, 3 let’s go shopping” -otherwise he’s been oddly quiet for the mouthpiece of god.

    • SteveBloor says:

      Kemari,

      How can you be so dismissive of the mouthpiece of God.

      He only speaks when God needs to tell us more important things like avoiding too many ear piercings.

      You should know better than to speak evil of the Lord’s Anointed!
      😉

      • Kemari says:

        I have followed the commandments on ear piercings! I’m not THAT crazy! I do have shoulder strap book bags “a plenty”. I may as well say my good byes as I will most certainly be stricken down.

  4. Robert Bridgstock says:

    I seem regularly to be gently leading my TBM brother through the rubble and dust of Mormonism… yet he keeps maintaining — it’s still a beautiful and sacred edifice. How many bombs of demolition must ignite, to help them see the ruins which suround them? DNA seems to be yet another large explosion, which they deny has had any effect… as they walk away with blackened faces!

  5. Camille Biexei says:

    This saddens my heart. I still remember how hard I tried to hang on all those decades while I sorted and sifted through the contradictions until I just could not do it anymore, finally concluding that I knew too much to stay. The cult which is Mormonism gets more and more narrow. Those who NEED to believe will continue to do so. The mind is a powerful thing which accepts and rejects information based on what it perceives it needs in order maintain a sense of safety. For most TBM “safe” means Mormon and, therefore, right/righteous. This announcement will be significant only to those who are already out or on their way.

  6. Justin Friedson says:

    Hi Steve, I assume you have now heard about Thomas Monson being summoned to an English court for fraud. As your name appears on the legal document, I am wondering if you can confirm the validity of this? It seems a little strange that, within days of your resignation letter post going viral, this thing pops up listing you as one of the victims: http://mormondisclosures.blogspot.com/2014/02/media-blitzed-monson-summoned-to-court.html
    Can you validate it or comment on it?

    • SteveBloor says:

      This is me. I am the Stephen Colin Bloor named as a witness in Tom Phillips fraud case.

      • Justin Friedson says:

        This is too bad. As someone who has recently started down the path of “waking up” from the LDS church (and as a current attorney), I am disappointed that you would be involved in a sham like this. Ironically, the attitudes and demeanor of many ex-Mormons have actually turned me away from seeking the truth over the years. Every time I would start to venture out, the irrational “screaming” of ex-Mormons online would chase me back to the church because those people seemed so mad/sad/desperate. Until now, you were the exception to this. I found your “about me” section very refreshing because it was honest about the true difficulties created among loved ones, but seemed to offer hope that those relationships can go on.

        Maybe I am wrong about this whole fraud thing, but from my research (and general understanding of the law) this summons is truly just a publicity stunt and reeks of desperation. The magistrate who signed off on it will likely be disciplined. It seems that you would be above this sort of thing. Even the Huffington Post, which is absolutely not friendly to the Mormon church, seems to report on this thing as if it is essentially a joke. I understand that any publicity is good publicity, but it is still disappointing.

      • SteveBloor says:

        Our motives are being misconstrued by the press.

        This is mainly about campaigning for openness and honesty.

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  9. Crystal says:

    This made me cry. I feel this frustration deeply, and you’ve articulated my feelings perfectly.

  10. JediMormon says:

    “Our motives are being misconstrued by the press. This is mainly about campaigning for openness and honesty.”

    Really? Well, you’ve got lots of folks frothing at the mouth with excitement, absolutely certain that Mr. Phillips is on the cusp of bringing the entire Mormon church down.

    This thing will prove to be nothing but a big dud. What our Mr. Phillips is accusing Monson of doing and teaching, Phillips did exactly the same thing–which begs the question: how is Monson guilty and Phillips not?

    This thing stinks to high heave of hypocrisy on the part of Phillips.

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  12. Frank says:

    The difference is – Tom Phillips finally discovered the truth and made changes to his life! Thomas Monson hasn’t done so yet!

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